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    134: The real reel stories of nurses

    Nurses represent the largest segment of the healthcare workforce and sit closest to the moments where care either holds or fails. In this episode, guest host Lisbeth Votruba talks with filmmakers Carolyn Jones and Lisa Frank of The American Nurse Project about what a decade of documenting nurses across America revealed, and why telling the full story of nursing is inseparable from fixing the systems on which we all depend.

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    Nursing is a scientific discipline, a public health infrastructure, and a body of knowledge built at the intersection of biology, behavior, community, and systems. Nurses are in schools and boardrooms, in legislatures and laboratories, in emergency rooms and living rooms, at bedsides and borders. They are scientists, researchers, entrepreneurs, policymakers, and the profession most consistently present at the places where health breaks down, and society falls short. And yet, according to decades of research on nursing’s portrayal in media and public life, the public picture of nursing remains stubbornly narrow and stripped of the analytical authority that makes nursing expertise genuinely irreplaceable.

    That gap is not a communications problem. It is a policy issue, a resource issue, and a patient safety concern. According to two replication studies of the landmark Woodhull Study on Nursing and the Media, nurses are cited as sources in just 2% of health news stories and nearly never in coverage of health policy. This means the perspective closest to the gaps in care, closest to what patients actually experience, and closest to workable solutions goes unheard. What is lost, as the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine concluded in their 2021 report on the future of nursing, is not just recognition. It is a way of seeing: the whole person within a family, a community, an environment, a system. A trained, scientific, evidence-based way of seeing that, as Buresh and Gordon argue in From Silence to Voice, no other profession replicates at scale.

    In this episode, guest host Lisbeth Votruba, a third-generation nurse and Chief Clinical Officer at Avishur, talks with filmmakers, photographer Carolyn Jones, and producer Lisa Frank, the team behind the 2012 book and documentary series The American Nurse Project. Jones and Frank share what they discovered after more than a decade of interviewing and photographing nurses across every setting, from Appalachian home health to prison hospices to labor and delivery wards, and why it took two outsiders to help nurses articulate what they do and why it matters. They discuss how personal storytelling unlocks what statistics cannot, how nurse-led initiatives have measurably improved outcomes in maternal health and end-of-life care, and why telling the full, true story of nurses is essential to fixing the systems we all rely on.

    Episode resources and links
    • Nurses and media representation — the 2% statistic Mason, D.J., Nixon, L., Glickstein, B., Han, S., Westphaln, K., & Carter, L. (2018). The Woodhull Study revisited: Nurses’ representation in health news media 20 years later. Journal of Nursing Scholarship, 50(6), 695–704. The content analysis that produced the 2% sourcing figure and found nurses were never cited in health policy stories, showing no improvement over the original 1997 study. https://doi.org/10.1111/jnu.12429
    • Why journalists don’t interview nurses Mason, D.J., Glickstein, B., & Westphaln, K. (2018). Journalists’ experiences with using nurses as sources in health news stories. American Journal of Nursing, 118(10), 42–50. A companion qualitative study finding that newsroom biases about women and authority, not any absence of expertise, explain nursing’s near-invisibility in health coverage. https://doi.org/10.1097/01.NAJ.0000546380.66303.a2
    • Nursing stereotypes in media over time González, H., Errasti-Ibarrondo, B., Iraizoz-Iraizoz, A., & Choperena, A. (2023). The image of nursing in the media: A scoping review. International Nursing Review, 70(3), 425–443. A decade-by-decade review of 60 studies showing that inaccurate and stereotyped portrayals of nurses have persisted across media formats since the 1920s. https://doi.org/10.1111/inr.12833
    • How nursing’s public image affects the profession Godsey, J.A., Houghton, D.M., & Hayes, T. (2020). Registered nurse perceptions of factors contributing to the inconsistent brand image of the nursing profession. Nursing Outlook, 68(6), 808–821. Surveys 286 RNs on the gap between how nurses see their own role and how the public perceives them, finding that outdated images continue to undermine nursing’s influence and autonomy. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.outlook.2020.06.005
    • Why nurses must communicate their expertise — not just their caring Buresh, B., & Gordon, S. (2013). From silence to voice: What nurses know and must communicate to the public (3rd ed.). ILR Press, an imprint of Cornell University Press. A foundational text arguing that nursing must move beyond a “virtue script” of dedication and caring and communicate the specialized scientific knowledge and decision-making authority at the core of nursing practice. https://doi.org/10.7591/9780801467370
    • Nursing’s role in health equity and the social determinants of health National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. (2021). The future of nursing 2020–2030: Charting a path to achieve health equity. National Academies Press. The landmark report positioning nurses as essential to addressing the social determinants of health and advancing health equity, noting that medical care accounts for only 10–20% of modifiable health outcomes for a population. https://doi.org/10.17226/25982
    • Nurse-led quality improvement in maternal care Main, E.K., Cape, V., Abreo, A., Vasher, J., Woods, A., Carpenter, A., & Gould, J.B. (2017). Reduction of severe maternal morbidity from hemorrhage using a state perinatal quality collaborative. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 216(3), 298.e1–298.e11. The peer-reviewed study behind the California Maternal Quality Care Collaborative work described by Dr. Deborah Bingham in this episode. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajog.2017.01.017
    • Perinatal quality collaboratives and maternal health equity Meadows, A.R., & Byfield, R. (2023). Strategies to promote maternal health equity: The role of perinatal quality collaboratives. Obstetrics & Gynecology, 142(4), 821–830. A narrative review of how quality improvement collaboratives contribute to safer, more equitable maternity care across the United States. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10510807/
    • About the American Nurse Project The home of Carolyn Jones and Lisa Frank’s full body of work, including the 2012 book, four feature documentaries, and an ongoing interview series with nurses across the country. https://americannurseproject.com/

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